Ms Twila has about 3 inches of natural hair with perm on the very ends. Although her hair is short in length it is dense. After the install I braided and rolled with softspikes. On Ms T's 1st retight, I rolled her locks with small perm rods to acheive this curly look, over the next few days the curls will loosen up. The next set of pictures, Twila has been locked about 4 months; notice how her locks have grown. I did a 2 strand twist w/bantu knots, sat her under the dryer and this is the results. Ms Twila's 5th or 6th retight, look at the fullness and growth! Her locks are now 6 inches. To achieve this look, I again did the bantu knots and sat under dryer. Next I would like to try the pipe cleaners.